India shot down a Pakistani warplane and lost its own MiG-21 fighter, with the pilot missing in action, New Delhi said. Pakistan earlier claimed it had successfully taken out two Indian aircraft amid a spiraling border crisis.

In an “aerial engagement Pakistani Air Force fighter aircraft was shot down by a MiG 21 Bison of the Indian Air Force” and fell on the Pakistani territory, the spokesperson for the Ministry of External Affairs, Raveesh Kumar, told reporters on Wednesday.

India took a beating too, he announced, having lost “one MiG 21” in the same encounter. The pilot is still considered “missing in action.”

Kumar stated that Islamabad used its jets to “target military installations on the Indian side” but “due to our high state of readiness and alertness Pakistan’s attempts were foiled successfully.”

The Pakistani military earlier claimed to have shot down two Indian aircraft over its airspace and captured two pilots. Radio Pakistan showed footage of what appeared to be an arrested pilot in custody. Indian officials are “assessing” this fact, Kumar said.

Islamabad for its part denied losing any of its aircraft as reports suggested that a Pakistani F-16 had been downed by the Indian Air Force.

Meanwhile, an Indian military Mi-17 helicopter also crashed in the Indian-controlled part of Kashmir on the same day. However, it is not clear whether the incident was connected to the altercation with Pakistani jets.

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Indian MiG-21 Bisons are fit with top notch systems. In a drill vs. USAF, they’ve drove US F-15 and F-16 totally bonkers. India cherry-picks domestic, French, Israeli and Russian systems

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Even their SEPECAT Jaguar 40y old strike aircraft have an Israeli AESA radar, crazy ECM and can shoot BVR missiles like Derby or I-Derby-ER. AAM ramps are mounted over the wings!comment image

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The big problem with their Bisons : airframes and engines are worn out, they’re about 35y old and 80’s Russian jets weren’t made to last more than 20 years.
Actually, these should have retired for several years and are nicknamed “death trap” or “flying coffins”

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Moreover, the total lack of decisionship+incompetence of DMs like AK Antony or Parrikar have terribly delayed the replacement of old aircraft. Now IAF has about 600 obsolete fighter jets in need to be replaced ASAP.

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And then you have eternal talks as Epic as the Mahabharata and debilitating political shenanigans like the recent artificial Rafale controversy, thanks to Rahul Ghandi backed by Tata Group which wants to build F-16 in India

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Moreover, they want transfers of technology and everything domestically built. IAF uses 3 types of fighter jets : heavy, medium and light.

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The heavy Su-30MKI is near completion of deliveries in 2020-21 with 272+8 units (8 losses to replace). They’re being upgraded as Super-Flanker standard.

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There are around 123 HAL Tejas on order, but Tejas has a serious flaw due to GE F404 (used on Gripen-A and Hornet) engine : lack of thrust and the engine takes too much room, so it lacks internal fuel.

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The solution may come from Rafale’s M88 engine in a 98kN version : being much smaller while as powerful as Super-Hornet/Gripen-E GE’s F414, it would allow as much fuel and thrust as Mirage-2000

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Flight tests with M88 are to be held in 2019. Moreover, Tejas will use Rafale’s RBE2/AESA which has double range compared to Israeli Elta EL/M 2032 which are being transferred into Jaguars

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Now, for mid weight, there are 36 Rafales on order, but also a huge offset to have Dassault, Safran, Thales and their subcontractors settling in India.

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Actually, India needs the French aircraft in huge numbers too, but further orders are being delayed due to elections.

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If Rahul Gandhi wins, being a Tata Corp puppet, India may end buying outdated F-16.

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And ruining domestic-made Tejas since it REALLY needs Rafale’s engine and radar to fulfil its promises.

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And if the French have no further orders, the huge offset of Rafale contract will go into building the Falcon business jet instead, thus, neither M88, nor RBE2/AESA, etc.

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India may end screwed with a Tejas no better than Paki/Chinese JF-17 block 3 and F-16 Viper while China fields J-20, J-31 and is more and more into imperialist attempts.

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Moreover, since India gave up with Su-57 (not meeting promises, overcosts), only Rafale can outcompete J-20 and J-31 and Tejas, but also Su-30MKI would inherit its ‘virtual’ stealth systems.

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The shared engines, radar, etc would also ease logistics while doing a serious scale economy while using both Tejas and Rafale.

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M88/Kaveri may end also considered to replace Mig-29’s engines allowing way more reliability and far lower costs of use while improving thrust and fuel consumption

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Considering IAF structure, they need 294-308 Tejas/M88-Kaveri, 262-266 Rafale-C/B while Indian navy needs 57 Rafale-M before 2030AD

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Since they estimate being able to push Mirage-2000, MiG-29 and Jaguar until 2030. MiG-21 are to retire in 2021-2023 and MiG-27 with 1st Rafale batch deliveries